Alex Cochran, Deseret News. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over. At a special TEDPrize@UN, journalist Krista Tippett deconstructs the meaning of compassion through several moving stories, and proposes a new, more attainable definition for the word. Theres a lot of different People. Only my head is for you. big enough not to let go: I think its very dangerous not to have hope. Sometimes it sounds, sometimes its image, sometimes its a note from a friend with the word lover. We want to rise to what is beautiful and life-giving. The next-generation marine biologist Ayana Elizabeth Johnson would let that reality of belonging show us the way forward. I was actually born at home. Tippett: And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. And I feel like its very interesting when you actually have to get away from it, because you can also do the other thing where you focus too much on the breath. No, really I was. So would you read, its called Before, page 46. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost, letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and, the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough, of the mother and the child and the father and the child, and enough of the pointing to the world, weary. And then thats also the space for us to sort of walk in as a reader being like, Whats happening here? Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. This is amazing. enough of the will to go on and not go on or how We value the ancient power of storytelling, and we get that good stories require conflict, characters and scene. I dont know why this, but this. And I remember reading it was Elizabeth Bishops One Art, and its a villanelle, so its got a very strict rhyme scheme. out. Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? And it says, You are here. And I felt like every day Id write a poem was literally putting that little, You are here dot on a map. Limn: Yeah. Or call 1-800-MY-APPLE. Easy light storms in through the window, soft, edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels, nest rigged high in the maple. Where some of you were like, Eww, as soon as I said it. I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. But something I started thinking, with this frame, really, this sense of homecoming and our belonging in the natural world runs all the way through every single one of your poems. Can you locate that? And for a long time Sundays kind of unsettled me, even as an adult. It unfolded at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis, in collaboration with Northrop at the University of Minnesota and Ada Limns publisher, Milkweed Editions. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. And actually, it seemed to me that your marriage was in fine shape. But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. Many of us were having different experiences. I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. We have been in the sun. And it felt like this is the language of reciprocity. abundance? This conversational nature of reality indeed, this drama of vitality is something we have all been shown, willing or unwilling, in these years. Tippett: I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. Thats how this machine works. But I mean, Ive listened to every podcast shes done, so Im aware. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. I am asking you to touch me. And yet at the same time, I do feel like theres this Its so much power in it. We offer it here as an audio experience, and we think you will enjoy being in the room retroactively. How am I? You could really go to some deep places if you really interrogated the self. the world walking in, ready to be ravaged, open for business. Just uncertainty is so hard on our bodies. with a new hosta under the main feeder. And I think about that all the time. I write. the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough and over against the ground, sometimes. And its always an interesting question because I feel like my process changes and I change. She hosted On Being on the radio for about two decades. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. Silence, which we dont get enough of. , and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Because how do we care for one another? Krista Tippett, host of award-winning NPR program "On Being", and poet David Whyte discusses several of the life-sized concepts addressed in Tippet's book, _. tags: curiosity , listening , oral-history , vulnerability. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. Centuries of pleasure before us and after Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. In the modern western world, vocation was equated with work. Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. What happens after we die? And she says, Well, you die, and you get to be part of the Earth, and you get to be part of what happens next. And it was just a very sort of matter-of-fact way of looking at the world. Shes written six books of poetry, most recently, won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume, . A friend He works with wood, and he works with other people who work with their hands making beautiful, useful things. Tippett: To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? In between my tasks, I find a dead fledgling, Special thanks this week to Daniel Slager, Yanna Demkiewicz, and Katie Hill at Milkweed Editions. Right now we are in a fast river together every day there are changes that seemed unimaginable until they occurred. adrienne maree brown and others use many words and phrases to describe what she does, and who she is: A student of complexity. April 4, 2008. Good conflict. Technology and vitality. I remember having this experience I was sort of very deeply alone during the early days of the pandemic when my husbands work brought him to another state. So well just be on an adventure together. And then in this moment it was we cared for each other by being apart. Yeah. I never go there very much anymore. Tippett: I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung And we all have this, our childhood stories. She created and hosts the public radio program and podcast On Being . I chose a couple of poems that you wrote again that kind of speak to this. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. we never sing, the third that mentions no refuge Harley at seven years old. "On Being," a weekly interview show about the mysteries of human existence, hosted by Krista Tippett, airs on nearly 400 public radio stations, with more than half a million weekly listeners . And its page six of. We know joy to be a life-giving, resilience-making human birthright. And that is so much more present with us all the time. Limn: Yeah. And I think for all of us, kind of mark this, which is important. On Being with Krista Tippett. And you mentioned that when you wrote this, when was it that you wrote it? Okay. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. Its got breath, its got all those spaces. On Being with Krista Tippett. On her show she promoted her new book, Einstein's God, and if the show is any indication, this new enterprise promises to be a fun fest for people inclined . And I think its in that category. I think I trusted its unknowing and its mystery in a way that I distrusted maybe other forms of writing up until then. I mean, I do right now. Tippett: So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover, chaotic track. The British psychologist Kimberley Wilson works in the emergent field of whole body mental health, one of the most astonishing frontiers we are on as a species. bury yourself in leaves, and wait for a breaking, And I also just wondered if that experience of loving sound and the cadence of this language that was yours and not yours, if that also flowed into this love of poetry. My familys all in California. I am human, enough I am alone and I am desperate, adrienne maree brown "We are in a time of new suns" On Being with Krista Tippett Society & Culture "What a time to be alive," adrienne maree brown has written. And what of the stanzas It makes room for all of these things that can also be It holds all the truths at once too. And then what happened was the list that was in my head of poems I wasnt going to write became this poem. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. Kind of true. But I think there was something deeper going on there, which was that idea of, Oh, this is when you pack up and you move. And I even had a pet mouse named Fred, which you would think I wouldve had a more creative name for the mouse, but his name was Fred. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. And that between space was the only space that really made sense to me. Yeah. It touches almost every aspect of human life in almost every society around the world right now. Also because so much of whats been and again, its not just in the past, what has happened, has been happening below the level of consciousness in our bodies. The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. Between the ground and the feast is where I live now. That really spoke to me, on my sofa. During her 20-plus years as host of public radio's "On Being" show which aired on some 400 stations across the country Krista Tippett and her beautifully varied slate of guests . Kalliopeia Foundation. I was like, Oh. Then I came downstairs and I was like, Lucas, Im never going to get to be Poet Laureate.. Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. beneath us, and I was just So I think there was a lot of, not only was it music, but then it was music in Spanish. Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. on the back of my dads And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. On Being with Krista Tippett | 5 minute podcast summaries on Apple . And so I think my investigation or my curiosity is not so much talking about poetry, but about where poetry comes from in us and what poetry works in us. Limn: and you forget how to breathe. Yeah. some new constellations. I think there are things we all learned also. And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. Its wonderful. Creativity. Exit The bright side is not talked about. Tippett: Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. And this is about your childhood, right? People will ask me a lot about my process and it is, like I said, silence. red helmet, I rode Before the koi were all eaten And place is always place. Youre never like, Oh, Im just done grieving. I mean, you can pretend you are, right, but we arent. Black bark, slick yellow leaves, a kind of stillness that feels And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways we've only begun to process and fathom. And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. And shes animated by questions emerging from those loves and from the science she does which we scarcely know how to take seriously amidst so much demoralizing bad ecological news. Silence, which we dont get enough of. We envision a world that is more fluent in its own humanity and thus able to rise to the great challenges and promise of this century. And thats also not the religious association with Sunday, right? So my interest, when I get into conversation with a poet, is not to talk, poetry, but to delve into what this way with words and sound and silence teaches us. you can keep it until its needed, until you can That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. bliss before you know And I think there was this moment where I was like, Oh, Im just sort of living to see what happens next. And the grief is also giving me a reason to get up. Once it has been witnessed, and buried, I go about my day, which isnt, ordinary, exactly, because nothing is ordinary, now even when it is ordinary. is a murderous light, so strong. Weve come this far, survived this much. Yeah. We want to orient towards that possibility. A special offering from Krista Tippett and all of us at On Being: an incredible, celebratory event listening back and remembering forwards across 20 years of this show in the good company of our beloved friend and former guest, Rev. So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. And even as it relieves us of the need to sum everything up. No, to the rising tides. And then a trauma of the pandemic was that our breathing became a danger to strangers and beloveds. I could. I wrote in my notes, just my little note about what this was about, recycling and the meaning of it all. I dont think thats . and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Yeah. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. the pummeling of youth. into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit But if you look at even the letters we use in our the A actually was initially a drawing of an ox, and M was water. Its a source of a spiritual thoughtfulness that runs through this conversation with Krista. Its Spanish and English, and Im trying, and Ill look at him and be like, How much degrees is it?, And hes like, Are you trying to ask me what the weather is?. Im so excited for your tenure representing poetry and representing all of us, and Im excited that you have so many more years of aging and writing and getting wiser ahead, and we got to be here at this early stage. Limn: Yeah. You said there in a place, as Ive aged, I have more time for tenderness, for the poems that are so earnest they melt your spine a little. Its the . until every part of it is run through with the trash, the rolling containers a song of suburban thunder. [Music: Molerider by Blue Dot Sessions]. From the earliest years of his career, he investigated how emotions are coded in the muscles of our faces, and how they serve as moral sensory systems. He was called on as Emojis evolved; he consulted on Pete Docters groundbreaking movie Inside Out. Krista Tippett (2) Rsultats tris par. Every week, the show hosts thoughtful . Every Thursday a new discovery about the immensity of our lives and frequent special features like poetry, music and Q + A with Krista. Many have turned to David Whyte for his gorgeous, life-giving poetry and his wisdom at the interplay of theology, psychology, and leadership his insistence on the power of a beautiful question and of everyday words amidst the drama of work as well as the drama of life. Why are all these blank spaces? It has silence built all around it. You may also catch references to things seen and witnessed throughout the event including a stunning opening poem by our dear friend Maria Popova, composed of On Being show titles which you can take in fully by viewing the recorded celebration in its entirety on our YouTube channel. If you had thought about it And you said that this would be the poem that would mean that you would never be Poet Laureate. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. I really love . Also: Kristin Brogdon, Lindsey Siders, Brad Kern, John Marks, Emery Snow and the entire staff at both Northrop and the Ted Mann Concert Hall of the University of Minnesota. When you open the page, theres already silence. the date at the top of a letter; though We point out the stars that make Orion as we take out Tacos. Because you did write a great essay called Taco Truck Saved my Marriage.. Thats really hard. But I love it. She is a former host of the poetry podcast The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. 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