My ex has just phoned and invited me to lunch, so I wont be online again today till about 4pm (french time). Good morning to my small band of regular Arseholes. . He ricocheted from coast to coast visiting his mother and father, hitchhiking and stowing-away on freight trains. Since that time, Arsenal fc is the only club in England to have never been relegated from the top division of English footy. 75 Drayton Park It is a fearsome burden to carry. It turned out they were West Ham just there for a fight. Report Arsenal man is now open to joining Newcastle United. You almost died., The guy says, No kidding, Doc, when will I be able to laugh again?, The doctor says, Youre nuts. While Woolwich may while be in South London, it only became a borough of London in the latter part of 1889, as before that it was North Kent. Ive followed my club, through thick and thin respected every other Gooner, young and old argued my point on JA, along with other sites been corrected many times made mistakes talking about our club never disrespected a player never wished anyone ill health within the club or outside it so bring it on Jon. 1972/1973 ENGLAND U23s PLAYED 6 Great article, my favourite player, in fact I tried to model myself on him for my Sunday team with no success. They include Tom Waits, James Cotton, Ellen McIlwaine and Muddy Waters. One of 6 clubs never to drop out of the Premiership, the Evertonians have been in the topflight since 1954, second only to Arsenal in the longest sequence of being In the English top division. Stoped reading at wont be wondering at all lol El amor es ciego (serie / reality show) 4:06 pm - Por qu hoy Keylor celebra una goleada del Arsenal? Johnny Hoy was an Islington bloke, maybe someone will know if he is still around? WebHarmonica player, stone mason and former commercial fisherman Johnny Hoy had good reason to call his band the Bluefish. WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP RUNNER UP 1981. You are a few years my senior but that Arsenal team you named was the one I started out watching. Very knowledgeable Arsenal man is Kenny. Estos son los requisitos que debe cumplir, 6:22 pm - Detienen a 5 sospechosos de secuestrar a vecino de Aserr, 6:08 pm - (VIDEO) Por primera vez aterriz vuelo chrter de esta aerolnea canadiense, 5:55 pm - Guadalupe tambin alza la voz por el arbitraje, 5:41 pm - Alajuelense toma nota de Guadalupe tras la salida de Centeno, 5:27 pm - EEUU: Rechazan liberar a embarazada que pidi excarcelacin en nombre de su feto, (VIDEO) Le buscaban reemplazo? Whatever it is a proud record and long may it run. One of my favourite ever quotes came from Ray whilst he was playing for Liverpool and they were dominating football at home and abroad. Average side though, 82-86 Hey, does anyone know if it's true that Cantona got chucked out of leeds because he was caught having an affair with Leslie Ash? , GunnerN5 will enjoy todays post he lived in the next street from me in that area. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Ray and Daddy were perfect up front for us, holding the ball up and never complaining about the treatment they got from defenders. I warned you to stay clear of lawyers!, the boss screamed. I dont believe MA will be the next / first manager to get us relegated, Im hoping he will take us back to the CL. (LogOut/ Yeah, I bet everyone was havin a crack at Leslie. Or wouldnt it? hooligan or hero soldier? They cornered Richie and gave him a right beating, I stood there and watched. I was deeply disappointed when Ray Kennedy was sold; his stellar career at Liverpool shows how much he still had to offer Arsenal. Not a lot of work done on that kind of thinking. What cant be disputed is that since 1919, we have been an ever present in the sports highest level of competition which is a record. I mistakenly thought that since these were for Humanitarian projects in a very poor country, I could get the other brand. He spent two seasons with Hamburg prior to rejoining Brondby in 1990 and scored in Denmark's 1992 European Championship final success. The band's two releases on ToneCool have titles that are both clever references to bluefishing jargon, Trolling the Hootchy (1995) and You Gonna Lose Your Head (1996). He mumbles to the doctor, When will I be able to laugh again?, The doctor says, Are you nuts? Ray continued to play under Bertie Mee in the 1972/73 season, but he was struggling with weight issues and he ballooned to over 14 stone, before the club fined him 200, then got him back into shape, under the guidance of Frank McLintock it is said. I wouldnt mind betting that those lads on the terraces fighting for their team, 55 years earlier they would have been the first lads joining up to go off to the front. a bit boozed but safe No Michael I didnt! , My appearances will be fleeting for the mo. My point is that we humans are ALL individually ONE person but we go on ajourney of change(evolvement) throughout life. You really scared him. I dont suppose the AGM will reveal much, just stick to the script, difficult questions will be out of order im guessing. Harmonica player, stone mason and former commercial fisherman Johnny Hoy had good reason to call his band the Bluefish. To be fair the World War meant we only got one opportunity with the sport at that point only being played between those in your region. I wholly agree with you Jon they are surely same. As his condition worsened the PFA stepped in to pay his medical expenses, as his savings were wiped out following his divorce, tax and business problems. Typical of me , I had to find out about his divorce and it was certainly very unpleasant. Good job Ken- keep these coming PAL. Johnny Hoy & The Bluefish Discography Browser. A gang of snails approach him and beat him up. Did you know our glorious government actually had a contingency plan for a possible revolution in the 70s? A true Arsenal hero and I much treasure the short conversation I once had while seated next to him on the tube on route to a home game. And talking of soldier. If you follow up this theme of the local youth gangs in Islington and Highbury along with supporter groups for Arsenal in this period with further posts on the subject, I would look forward some further detail and analysis from your sociology and criminology perspective. (FOTOS) Deportista y modelo de Only Fans revela que Neymar le pidi tro junto a su hermana, Chris Rock hablar sobre golpe de Will Smith durante especial en Netflix, (VIDEO) Bad Bunny bromea con arrojar celular de fantica que lo estaba grabando, Costa Rica y Ecuador firman acuerdo de asociacin comercial, Realizarn feria de empleo para cubrir 3 mil vacantes en diferentes puestos, Emite facturas electrnicas? And as Roger Daltrey sang, Im just talkin bout my g-g-generation. The majority of the members of the Islington gangs were also Arsenal supporters but on the Northbank local rivalries were forgotten and we were united in our support of the club and fought side by side. The new blocks of flats on the corner of St Thomass Road. It was Connell who claimed the word Gooner for Arsenal fans, originally a taunt, and who led charges at Highbury stadiums Clock End to take ground held by away supporters. He chased National Front recruiters off the Arsenal terraces and was credited for the failure of the movement to infiltrate the Arsenal firm in the late 1970s. Oh and remember, when you call fellow Gooners dullards that is personal and I take it you wont want my season ticket again, if it becomes available? Welcome to the GunnersoreArse blog. He now has to depend on daily care, he is housebound and on bad days can hardly walk or speak. Why not go the whole hog and have two more clubs too, ROYAL WOOLWICH ARSENAL AND OUR OLDEST ANCESTOR, DIAL SQUARE! Danish International midfielder John Jensen starred in Arsenal's 1993 FA Cup final triumph. Then on a Saturday we would stand side by side on the Northbank. The Rolling Stones, the Who, the Small Faces, the Kinks, Desmond Dekker and Tamla Motown was the music and Islington was split between four gangs. In the actual sense of things as it relates to this subject matter. Amid jeers and insults from the gang the trucker paid his bill and left. Unfortunately, I am not able to frequent your jolly good pub as often as I would love to. I know that when we walked down Holloway Road as a group or some High Street up north for an away game we frightened the hell out of the locals, but somehow it didnt seem like that. despite living less than an hour from the ground!!! Later that week, Richie and a few of his mates caught me on my own behind Chapel Street Market and I got it in return. Just Arsenal is an independent news service that concentrates solely on news and opinion about Arsenal FC from all around the world. Mycological. Special thanks to Wikipedia, who have a very detailed article regarding Rays life. He became a photo figurehead of the society that was bringing awareness of the disease to the publics attention and, whilst doing this, he met another famous sufferer of this awful condition, Muhammad Ali, a childhood hero of Rays. After a game at Stamford Bridge we stormed a pub full of Chelsea Shed boys in the Fulham Road. You obviously either bombed or sold the lot and are either celebrating or having a glass to cheer yourself up. He may be able to add some more local spice to my ramblings , Right lads, I cant hang about on line this morning. Warning: there is some strong language used. Please bear with me. A truck driver stopped for a meal and was just served when a huge caravan of Hells Angels roared in. HARTLEPOOL 1983/1984 PLAYED 23 / SCORED 3 GOALS, ENGLAND INTERNATIONAL: Police work can be entertaining as well as dangerous. The court (and the judge) could not contain their laughter. Suddenly the idea of the Toffees getting relegated, so often deemed too good to go down, becomes very real. This menu is keyboard accessible. Meh. La lista la integran 40 jugadores, pero cinco de ellos en especial son figuras histricas del futbol mexicano.. No todos I really enjoyed your piece on the Caledonian Road / Islington gang wars, I was never a part of it myself but living in the area I was taught the art of cunning self defense I was a fast runner!! Still unruffled, the trucker sat there quietly and drank his coffee. Harmonica player, stone mason and former commercial fisherman Johnny Hoy had good reason to call his band the Bluefish. Surely not painting.. have you done anything recently or are the director? Well done ken and hope you have many more like these to show us. Harmonica player, stone mason and former commercial fisherman Johnny Hoy had good reason to call his band the Bluefish. Anyone who would like to contribute an Article or Video opinion piece on JustArsenal, please contact us through this link, Video Mikel Arteta Full pre-game press conference ahead of West Ham, Great article Dan, i hope everton survives, A guy called Kenny Rolfe in this site, who I believed to be a very old Gooner and highly knowledgeable, explained about that pride of Arsenal to me. The official blues party band of Martha's Vineyard steps up to the plate with this debut disc featuring 13 tunes from the band's voluminous set list, including four originals from the pen of bandleader/harmonica man Johnny Hoy. As of present we are making history with Arteta both bad and good if we finish 4th at the end of the season. Jennifer Lynch of the Westport Land Conservation Trust, johnny hoy and the bluefish, west tisbury, martha's vineyard, ma| 508.696.3007| email, Our phone is ringing off the hook with people telling us it was. I once saw all of them at Southgate Tube station during a half term holiday. Big ups . Six-feet-two and around 200 pounds, Hoy was an astute rabble rouser who organized Arsenal fans to fend off rival firms who tried to make inroads on the Highbury terraces. According to a Time Out article by Chris Lightbown in 1972, Hoy had more convictions for football violence than any other hoolie in London. The band cut their collective musical teeth in the greater Boston area, playing numerous functions on Martha's Vineyard, where Hoy has lived for the last two decades. With a Blues and Roots sound, the variety of the grooves in the music allow for a wide spectrum of venues. I dont think for one moment that your blog would ever be abandoned, we are a small but loyal bunch of bloggers who have sore knuckles from knocking on the closed pub door and hearing nothing but moans and groans from inside. The recession we had to have, as a great Australian P.M. tried to explain. Regarding Everton, I hope they stay up, but relegation could be the wake up call they need. Good luck with your exhibition NB, It will make room for more etchings to be viewed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. We're as comfortable and experienced in a corporate or function setting as we are on a back porch or in the middle of a field. Six-feet-two and around 200 pounds, Hoy was an astute rabble rouser who organized Arsenal fans to fend off rival firms who tried to make inroads on the Highbury terraces. Youre right. That was one hell of a battle and went on for at least 30 minutes. I said younger fans like DAN who is 33/34, though I not say DAN HIMSELF DID NOT KNOW. I went to Ring cross infants school-long gone now & replaced by yet another housing estate,hated it-used to bunk off most days,same as secondary school-Highbury grove-used to spend most of my days thieving up west & fighting kids from other schools-mainly Holloway,never robbed off our own,only from business premises. Man City and Chelseas history only improved once they were brought by Billionaires. When it was time for the game to resume in its normal form, Arsenal were voted as one of the clubs who should make up the first division extra spots with the competition expanding from 20-22 teams, despite finishing 5 the when the second division was last played. Local justice was the norm in our area. Aplic a empleo que result ser su mismo puesto en la empresa, (VIDEO) Diputada del FA: Hay hombres que menstran, Los comentarios expresados en las columnas de opinin, pgina de memes, en la opinin de los lectores y comentarios de terceros al final de las notas o en las pginas de redes sociales, son responsabilidad exclusiva de sus autores. He is left at the bottom of a tree with several cuts and bruises. Ray Kennedy truly was an Arsenal Football Club legend. (With thanks to Leigh Edwards), Arsenal Football Club He experienced a nomadic childhood with his parents What a fucking night, we won 3-0. SK, Care to explain the reason you refer to Mrs Fox? I knew that area like the back of my hand, what with my own milk round and rides on my grandfathers horse my cart when he was making his deliveries. Margaret Thatcher had a plan for football hooligans and Unions. En Netflix, los usuarios podrn ver series y pelculas de diferentes gneros desde la comedia hasta el terror y reality show, dndole posibilidades a los fanticosdeescoger alguna de acuerdo con sus preferencias. Ken- what a fantastic tribute to an undoubted Arsenal Legend. Its all been done before and my Sociology and Criminology degrees were based on criminal and social upbringing. Estos son los requisitos que debe cumplir, Detienen a 5 sospechosos de secuestrar a vecino de Aserr, Guadalupe tambin alza la voz por el arbitraje, Alajuelense toma nota de Guadalupe tras la salida de Centeno, Controversia en Espaa: piden suspensin temporal de Laliga. Later in the year, he sold all of his medals and international caps to raise funds for his treatment and, in 2002, was reported to be living alone. THAT MAKES FOUR CLUBS, NOW WHO WILL BID ME FIVE OR EVEN SIX?!!! The house on the near side of the white building backed on the my maternal grandparents home they lived at 33 Stavordale Road. b. John Cravin Hoy, 10 January 1957, Middletown, Connecticut, USA. So to suggest that Gooners have, over the years, been following, up to, 4 different clubs is a huge slap in the face of our fan-base. On the corner of the street was a brothel run by Jamaicans and just over the road on the corner of Westbourne Road and Sheringham Road was a night club called the Golden Star, a reggae/blues club where most of the local Jamaican gangsters gathered. Does it really matter if we were relegated? I guess we should be looking at Ray as an Arsenal great and there is no doubt he was one of them!!! The suspect explained that he was passing a pumpkin patch on his way home from a drinking session when he decided to stop. Its the same car I had in 1972, but mine had a black vinyl roof. Perhaps unsurprisingly, his rootless, lonely existence drew him towards the blues, finding rhythm in the pace of his footsteps. OH SILLY ME! Cbob. Learn more The final game of the season saw us travelling to WHL, needing a 0-0 draw or a win and, with the score at 0-0, George Armstrongs great cross in the 88th minute saw Ray soared above the Spuds defence to head in a wonderful goal the rest is part of our clubs wonderful history. It might surprise you to learn that Jon hadnt been to an actual match (until he used my season ticket for two games) for many years. If Frank Lampard cant sort things out, you can argue Everton would be the biggest name to finish in the bottom three in the Premier League era. Co-producer Danny Kortchmar contributes great guitar on six tracks, while Buck Shank provides a twangier approach on "Little Upsetter," "Johnny McEldoo," "Young and Restless," "Hidden Charms" and a duet between the Hoys on Willie Dixon's "Howlin' for My Darling." Tucker Pforzheimer of M.V. Thank for enlightening me on certain fact. RUNNER UP 1978 I also know how etiquette works in this country of England where I live and where Arsenal is and thought it necessary to point it out to you. Right, time for a glass of wine and some spicy chorizo hope you enjoyed your visit. Its to exhibit some of my older work. What happened to you? I got to visit most grounds in England during that time but by the time I was 17 Id grown out of it and moved on to bigger and better things. Does anyone want a world with Spurs and no Arsenal in the top flight. He saw the very 1st game the Gunners played at Highbury in 1913 and took me to my 1st game in 1947 so our family support goes back over 100 years.. My guess is that photo of Drayton Park was taken in about 71/72. Rays form continued to dip however and he explained the reason as being my game has gone downhill since I got married, but has started to pick up again now I am in bachelordom, I feel that I am better off without her!!!! One title. Our Community, Done! In 1969 I was 15 years old , a member of the Little Holloway and inter gang fights were the norm in Islington and sometimes branched out to Somers Town. I said, Excuse me sir, but do you realize that youre having sex with a pumpkin? He froze and was clearly very surprised that I was there. Love his stories about Johnny Hoy and Putney during the 60s and 70s. Read Full Biography. But I wont abandon it, not at all, at all! They all seemed like giants to me at the time as I was about 11 or 12 years of age. Life is tough! The group, based in Martha's Vineyard, are all fishing fanatics, and they decided Read Full Biography. The next day, at the Ashtabula County (OH) courthouse, Lawrence was charged with lewd and lascivious behavior, public indecency and public intoxication. Arsenal season ticket prices? The originals stand up nicely against the set staples, and the singing is fresh and invigorating (particularly compelling is Hoy's chromatic turn on "Tennessee Waltz"), making this one potent party album. While it is up to each individual (Jon) to decide how they support the club, likewise its also up to each individual fan (SK) as to what they should learn / know about the history of the club. He started as sub yet again in the first leg and he scored the vital away leg goal, after we were trailing 3-0 but Bertie didnt use him in the return leg as we claimed our first silverware in 17 years, with a wonderful 4-3 aggregate win. Perhaps, in its moving simplicity, your very best heroes article yet. They include Tom Waits, James Cotton, Ellen McIlwaine and Muddy Waters. 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